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Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Penny — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:22:50 -0000

Great video sample on the website. You guys were going so fast.
I've just checked the CSV website, and noticed that they've posted rules about helmet/bike cams in races on their front page now. Link is here: http://www.vic.cycling.org....

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Steffo — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:22:54 -0000

Kudos Wade. Love your work. I'll give SBS a call and see if they can send you over to the tour.

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Che — Mon, 11 May 2009 07:11:03 -0000

Hey Wade, love your work! Anthony (Seipolt) and I were talking about this over the weekend, following his attendance at the CSV Committee meeting. I think it's an extremely backwards-looking stance and fails to grasp the nature of what racing (TdF, pro cyclocross, amateur cycling, V8 Super Cars, Formula 1, etc) means for both competitors and spectators - entertainment! Yes, we race because we love the speed and the thrill and the danger, but for those watching, it is entertainment! And it's something that the likes of the Amaury understands, but the UCI and CSV don't. Keep up the fight dude! -Ern.

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

sm — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:43:06 -0000

Nice work cyclingtips great coverage,

I'm a bit more concerned about the other 100 other riders / bike in the bunch running me over in an off rather than the helmet cam.
I say the camera is welcome anytime.

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

cyclingtips — Mon, 11 May 2009 00:08:03 -0000

I forgot to mention how rippin' fast the women's race was going. We were up in the break trying to get past them and could barely get by! Well done ladies!

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

anonymous — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:32:35 -0000

Imaginary transcript from the wrongful death action taken by Mrs Wallace against CSV (and their insurers) following Wade's untimely death in a race accident.
Mrs Wallace's Lawyer: "So, Mr CSV Commisairre, did you permit the deceased to participate in the race in full knowledge that he was in breach of race regulations?"
CSV: "Yes".
CSV owes a duty of care to participants to ensure their safety - in part this is achieved by ensuring racers follow rules. CSV breached its duty by letting Wade race in contravention of the rules.
So Mrs Wallace is successful against CSV and their insurers and receives a judgement of one million dollars damages.
We could then go on the case between CSV and their insurers where the insurance company refuses to pay out the one million dollars to Mrs Wallace because CSV knowingly allowed a rider to race in contravention of a safety rule.
So Mrs Wallace receives less than a million because CSV can't find the money. CSV is bankrupt. No more racing for anyone.
CSV had no choice but to refuse permission to breach what is notionally a law that promotes race safety.
The relevance or otherwise of the rule itself is a separate issue. But once its there, no way could they waive it without putting themselves at risk of being outside their insurance coverage.

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Joe Blow — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:48:41 -0000

Excellent photos by Arnaud. I don't blame him. It costs him money to do what he does and what's the sense of him giving his photos away for free for someone else to benefit off of?

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Anonymous — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:44:47 -0000

Arnaud Domange wanted you to pay to use his photos in your video? "couldn’t come to a financial agreement"?

He should have been happy to promote his photos and business on this site. I've never heard of him before now. Gracious of you to even mention him.

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Anonymous — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:35:52 -0000

Glass? What about sunglasses and eye glasses. More of a chance of them falling off.

Comprimises the safety of the helmet? The CSV uses number stickers on the helmets all the time. This "modification of the helmet" rule is broken by the CSV all the time.

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

DB — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:34:09 -0000

The CSV needs to comply with the rules that the UCI sets out for them. The helmet camera is considered to be unsafe because it could fall and glass could shatter. Also, it compromises the safety of the helmet

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Chris — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:32:14 -0000

This could be CSV's chance to show that they are a progressive organization and that they embrace new types of media and technology to promote cycling. Could have been great publicity for them

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Tommy P — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:13:35 -0000

Well done Team O2 Networks. Strong!

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Seb — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:00:33 -0000

Funny

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Juzzy — Sun, 10 May 2009 20:48:37 -0000

Heh, used to ride with Leigh back in Shepp as a kid - didn't know he was still kicking around! :)

Some really, really cool cam footage here too! He mounts it under the stem - might be a sneakier place to put it!? :)

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Geoff — Sun, 10 May 2009 20:48:19 -0000

Sweet as boys, I made it on flim. BTW this means I was up the back!

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Jon — Sun, 10 May 2009 20:45:40 -0000

Would have been wise of the CSV to have worked WITH you to try to come up with a solution to using the video camera instead of AGAINST you in the effort to promote our great sport.

Always easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. CSV would have never allowed this and it doesn't surprise me that they fined you.

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Leigh — Sun, 10 May 2009 20:44:42 -0000

Great Vid again mate. They never look as hard or as fast as being there though. Will definately check out the full vid from RaceDayRush

Re: Philip Island Grand Prix Helmet Cam

Anonymous — Sun, 10 May 2009 20:27:55 -0000

1.3.004 No technical innovation regarding anything used, worn or carried by any rider or other license holder during a race (bicycles, equipment mounted on them, accessories, helmets, clothing, means of communication, etc.) may be used until approved by the UCI Executive Committee.

That "technology" is too new to be covered by their hundred year old rules..